Topic on Talk:Ortiz Lopez

This is a fork of the conversation that began in Concern About Lopez's Community Lore, specifically focusing now on the relationship between Ortiz Lopez and Pitching Machine. In summary, some contributors (in this case Lilypad and Winds) have expressed concern over the framing & nature of this relationship as it relates to acceptable content on this wiki, with concern that it is overly sexualized.

It is worth noting that this is hardly the first time this conversation has occurred on the subject of Ortiz Lopez & Pitching Machine. We, the wiki team, have previously ruled that the content currently on the page in that section is acceptable for our wiki. If innuendo based on word replacement was sufficient to breach a PG-13 rating, the Count would not be acceptable on Sesame Street. If discussions of consent are inherently sexual, then that sets bad precedent for the many non-sexual situations where consent plays an important role (e.g. a friend infodumping when you're exhausted and don't have the energy to listen).

We would like to direct your attention to our critique guide, specifically the sections Be Specific, and Offer Solutions and It’s Okay to Not Like Things. Winds' critique about the reference to Chuck Tingle is a good example of specificity, though we would appreciate a suggested solution to go along with it (e.g. "could you change the name so that is less clearly a parody of Chuck Tingle, known gay erotica author"). "This seems really sexualized, Won't Somebody Think Of The Children" is both extremely nonspecific and raises red flags for us that someone is trying to make something they personally dislike or are uncomfortable with into a moral issue. If the quality of critique doesn't improve, we will enforce a standardized feedback format, as we are extremely tired of dealing with this issue.