Topic on Talk:Order of the Baristas

• Order of the Holy Beans: turns real world places where coffee is grown into fictional places and strongly mirrors language around the search for spices by European explorers and the resulting colonization.

• Order of the Holy Beans: turns real world places where coffee is grown into fictional places and strongly mirrors language around the search for spices by European explorers and the resulting colonization.

• Order of Orders: just kind of the same unfortunate overtones about the same as above but less direct. The Global North also has a long history of staging political events in the other nations both for economic greed and for political beliefs and the rest of the page is so close to that entire phenomena that it is difficult to read this with good intentions. Also really reminds me of both IRL and fictional orders with fascist or imperialist ideologies that style themselves from the same Eurocentric and Catholic movements.  

• Order of Orders: just kind of the same unfortunate overtones about the same as above but less direct. The Global North also has a long history of staging political events in the other nations both for economic greed and for political beliefs and the rest of the page is so close to that entire phenomena that it is difficult to read this with good intentions. Also really reminds me of both IRL and fictional orders with fascist or imperialist ideologies that style themselves from the same Eurocentric and Catholic movements.  

• King Tom Hurtin: once again, unfortunate overtones of a member of royalty [who has a really white sounding name] wielding mysticised authority over coffee growing nations, which are often former colonies and are members of the Global South.  

• King Tom Hurtin: once again, unfortunate overtones of a member of royalty [who has a really white sounding name] wielding mysticised authority over coffee growing nations, which are often former colonies and are members of the Global South.  

• Usage of the word "tribe": tribe can be a very loaded word with complicated connotation specifically regarding nationality, the way colonialism has impacted many sovereignties worldwide and is often used in a way thats reflective of stereotypes of non-White nations, including places where coffee is popularly grown such as Ethiopia and Kenya. It is worsened when combined with portions discussing Tom Hurtin "talking with tribes", both erasing the presence of actual Indigenous nations on unceded territory as well as affirming parallels between this page and real & ongoing colonization.  

• Usage of the word "tribe": tribe can be a very loaded word with complicated connotation specifically regarding nationality, the way colonialism has impacted many sovereignties worldwide and is often used in a way thats reflective of stereotypes of non-White nations, including places where coffee is popularly grown such as Ethiopia and Kenya. It is worsened when combined with portions discussing Tom Hurtin "talking with tribes", both erasing the presence of actual Indigenous nations on unceded territory as well as affirming parallels between this page and real & ongoing colonization.