Topic on Talk:Jon Halifax

Hello, all. We've been reviewing this talk page and the surrounding information. First I'm going to tell you what decision we've made and then go into detail about why we made this decision.

We've decided to allow the page to go up with the changes that were made around approximately 12:00 PM US EDT on 2020-05-11. Essentially our decision boils down to 3 things: 1) most of the requested changes were made happily; 2) we do not want to set a precedent of removing a link to content that is already on this wiki and fairly integral to the plot; 3) we rarely concern ourselves with off-wiki lore and even after reviewing it, we feel the off-wiki repositories have an appropriate CW/tagging system in place for users to make their own decisions.

To the first point: since some of the actions taken were not documented in this talk page, I wanted to take the time to lay out which changes were made and which changes were not, using UnabashedlyRose's list from above:

• not hyperlink directly to Dark Seattle, so removing the link in the Tinder joke (maybe swap it for LinkedIn? technically you can't text in that but that's just part of the bit imo) and removing the link in the Trivia section, or just linking to regular Seattle
  • partially changed; the link to Dark Seattle from Up North and a Little Bit West remains
• remove the overt hating on the Garages since it might just be misconstrued as just the Crabs fans being mean to The Garages and we'd rather avoid that altogether (even if it's fine now, I suspect it would feel bad for some unsuspecting Garage to stumble on)
  • Changed
• soften and reword the bit about having lots of pitchers since that's also directly targeting the Garages (something like "more pitchers is better" since Jon is an awful pitcher so it's funny to make him be wrong about strategy, or a joke about him just complaining that the Crabs only have 4 pitchers, ignoring how fairly normal that makes our rotation these days)
  • Changed
• the sun thing is overshadowed by heliolatry and the fact that we killed the sun already so it's decentered enough to be a nod rather than a direct reference, so that's fine
  • not necessary to change
• the armwarmers thing is like, he knits, so that actually fits fine as well
  • not necessary to change

To the second and third points: Dark Seattle content has been on this wiki for a while. We've reviewed it and nothing here breaks our guidelines or CW requirements, including PG-13 content guidelines. Further, the link is integral to understanding this writing. When making administrative decisions, we have to assume our readers do not know implicit references because often this is the first place a prospective Blaseball fan is led. Likewise, the wiki software and model is better served by having as many things as possible (within reason--link spamming is bad) interlinked for search and findability reasons. We feel, therefore, that removing this link would undermine the entirety of the page for the sake of off-wiki content not linked here. Typically we do not even consider off-wiki content such as AO3 when making administrative decisions, but in this case we made a special exception to understand the heart of the issue. Even after reviewing what is there, we feel that the off-site mechanisms for content warnings are robust and appropriately applied. One cannot accidentally access this material; it is generally deliberate.

I appreciate that people here are using the talk page for the intended purpose and you can contact the moderators or administrators with any questions or feedback.