Talk:Elwin McGhee

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Waveridden (talkcontribs)

Hi! I'm here with a minor update to IF-95.273 (the puppet bug) as well as two new IRMs.

  • Puppet bug (update): Remove the section about alternation and end by describing Elwin leaving to another dimension
  • Eltwin (new): A fleshed out description of the alt puppet bug Elwin from the original puppet bug page: she's from a combative, "toxic strength" type dimension and has been unlearning that.
  • Yamini (new): Yamini Kashyap is a mycologist bonded to Elwin McGhee, a semi-parasitic fungus of unknown origin. Yamini and Elwin replaced original!Elwin when they were alted.

You can read the full versions of all of these here. These pages also mention Evelton McBlase II, Stijn Strongbody, Gerund Pantheocide, and alt!Jessica Telephone.

Crosspost from Freemium Seraph

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Waveridden (talkcontribs)

Elwin is mentioned in an update to AI!Seraph: "Over its long and storied career with the Lift, Seraph learned more about humanity: Elwin McGhee taught it about having a soul, Concrete Mandible taught it about art and creativity, and Ayanna Dumpington taught it about having fun. When it was pointed out that none of Seraph’s teachers are technically human, it beeped loudly and intentionally until all reporters were forced to vacate the premises."

ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ (talkcontribs)

Like many of their teammates, Elwin's IRM needs to be updated. It looks like the Filebox format would be best for them, because even though they were alternated, their entries don't fit under the Dimensions format very well. As such, the Filebox format would be installed.

Irish Elwin McGhee

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Inumo (talkcontribs)

Mods were alerted to an IRM entry that was added without going through the Talk page process per our contribution policies. The former entry IF-87.771 has been copied below and the page has been deleted. The original author for this page is CynicalMaelstrom; if, after 24 hours, there are no objections, they can restore the page.


Born on a small farm in County Kerry, its unknown exactly when Elwin McGhee was created, but rumours of the “Butter Beast of Ballybunion” date back to at least the mid 18th Century. It’s possible that some of these rumours refer to McGhee’s father Shivam, a barrel of Indian Ghee, delivered to Ireland at a similarly unknown date. Whether Shivam was sentient before arriving in Eire is, like much of the Grass-Fed Fielder’s early history, a mystery. What is certain is that he was seized by the British forces that then occupied the country, before being liberated by McGhee’s mother, Siobhann, a rebellious and independent woman reputed to have the blood of the Tuath de Danann, the fey folk of Celtic folklore, running through her veins. Some say that it was her fey magic that brought Shivam to life, before the two fell in love. What is certain is that the two ran away to the relative safety of the west of Ireland, and had a child together, whom they would name Elwin McGhee, or in the original Irish, Elwin Mac Ghee, translating literally to “Elwin, Child of Ghee.

McGhee would be raised among the wild coast and the rolling hills of Kerry, and given as close to a normal Irish childhood as is possible for an amorphous mass of shapeshifting butter, taking an early love of the Gaelic games, especially rounders and hurling, eventually earning a place on the county hurling team. This is where many of the folk tales around McGhee originate, with opponents cursing them, and inventing elaborate explanations for why they were overcome by the “Diabhal Sleamhain.” There was, however, an unfortunate incident one winter where, unable to melt off the requisite mass, McGhee over-ate at a christmas dinner and grew to approximately thirty feet in height, destroying about half the village over the course of the evening’s drunken revelry. This was fortunately dismissed as ‘just a bit of craic,’ proving definitively that you can get away with just about anything if you’re on the County team.

McGhee would enjoy a long and storied hurling career, and upon their retirement planned to return to their parents’ farm, before being approached by a friend who suggested that they use their sporting fame to open a GAA-Themed Sports Bar in Tokyo. Said friend and McGhee both, however, unfortunately overestimated the popularity of the GAA in Japan. Despite briefly serving the best pint of Guinness east of Abuja, the bar went fairly quickly bankrupt. It was at this point that one of the bar’s few patrons, and a gym buddy of McGhee’s, Lance Serotonin, suggested that McGhee put their remarkable pace to use playing for the newly formed Tokyo Lift. McGhee accepted the offer, but with their experience lying solely in the strictly amateur Gaelic games they are yet to grasp the concept of professional sport, and are thus still trying to get a sheep farm started to make a bit of money. (No mean feat in a high-rise apartment in central Tokyo)

NautALoid (talkcontribs)

I am a bit late to this but I would like to raise some concerns about the presence of what seem to be some harmful Irish stereotypes. I do not have the exact parts on hand to reference, as the article was deleted, but the issue that stood out most to me was the several mentions of drunkenness and bars (if I recall correctly, the phrase "drunken revelry" is used at one point, and Elwin comes to Tokyo specifically to found a sports bar). I am not Irish myself so if anyone else has a better perspective and disagrees about it being an issue, I'd be willing to listen.

Edit: I have realized that one can in fact see the entry, as it is just included in the talk page under a cut.

KBKarma (talkcontribs)

Hi there. I'm not the original author of the piece, but being a) a Lift fan and b) Irish, I can contribute some perspective.

Regarding the drunken revelry comment, it is a somewhat offhand reference. The context is that the player is part of the County team - think someone on the college football team (this works for both American football and soccer), and, after a party, causes a load of destruction, which is just laughed off because "ah sure, he's on County, it's fine!". I can remove the drunken part, however - that's not entirely relevant, what's relevant is the destruction and it being shrugged off by the locals.

Regarding the Irish pub comment, though, I'm not seeing the issue. There are estimated to be around 7000 or more Irish pubs worldwide. It's a very lucrative business model, either in expatriate areas or as a theme. Sometimes they're even founded by people who have lived in Ireland, and have some authenticity about them. There are actually already sixteen Irish pubs in Tokyo within six kilometres of each other. The fact that two Irish people came to Tokyo to set one up isn't a stretch or really a harmful stereotype.

As I said, I can rewrite the revelry portion, because that doesn't add to the story (and might not be age appropriate in some areas). How would I go about doing so and reuploading it? Submit it a second time? Or would I need to ask the original author to do so?

NautALoid (talkcontribs)

Thank you for your explanation, this sort of insight was exactly what I was hoping for when I made my reply so I retract my concerns. As you mention, the explicit mention of drunkenness in the revelry portion may fall outside of the guidelines (alcohol use) so if that is altered, I see no reason why the entry shouldn't be re-added.

ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ (talkcontribs)

IRM entry for a concept we've had for Elwin for a while now, but just never wrote an IRM for.

Elwin is a species of bug from another universe that controls another dead bug from within. He was trapped in this universe when he came to investigate blaseball. He was friendly and intellectual. His alternation was him "escaping" to another universe, and being replaced by a new McGhee that's parasitic and really would like to go back home.

Full text here, content warning for talk of corpses: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tczbPUYBp1HxO24UOE7_rM0IVzu7RNPUvqJ6Ln7VQ5A/edit?usp=sharing

The Tokyo Adrift/nAUtical Lift

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Spotter donut (talkcontribs)

IRM entry for Elwin as a hivemind of wood-borer beetles and shipworms living within a giant ship-timber beetle exoskeleton for the pirate AU

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